01005748 Case File No. 002/19-09-2007/ECCC/TC E313 147. The Chamber further notes that both KHIEU Samphan and IENG Sary expressed a comprehensive understanding of the decision-making process that led to the evacuation of Phnom Penh. In a video-taped interview, KHIEU Samphan asserts that had there been a single voice against the evacuations, they could not have taken place. The reason for the evacuations, he states, were to prevent the people from dying of starvation.426 Further, it was KHIEU Samphan who announced the final assault of Phnom Penh on the Voice of FUNK, although the evacuation of the city was not announced.427 For his part, IENG Sary discussed the evacuation of Phnom Penh with POL Pot at least in June 1974 and likely in April 1975. Both KHIEU Samphan and IENG Sary therefore had prior knowledge of the details of the evacuation that is consistent with their having taken part in the decision-making process. 3.4.4. Orders passed to lower cadre 148. After the early April 1975 meeting at B-5, meetings were held with the Khmer Rouge forces to give orders to RAK division commanders to evacuate Phnom Penh and other cities.428 For example, Khmer Rouge cadre SEM Hoeun was told by his commander that the commanders met prior to 17 April 1975 to discuss the evacuation of Phnom Penh and later informed their subordinates.429 CHHOUK Rin, a former Khmer Rouge commander, reported that a meeting was held in Phnom Sar at the army headquarters in Kampot Province about one month before the fall of Phnom Penh at which Ta Mok discussed the closure of markets, the abolition of currency and evacuation of Kampot Town.430 Ta Mok also discussed the plans for the evacuation of Kampot which closely resembled the practice that was followed in Phnom Penh and 426 KHIEU Samphan Interview Transcript, E3/4051, pp.1-2, ERN (En) 00788872-73; Video of KHIEU Samphan Interview, E152.1.52R. 427 Cambodians Urged to Unite in New Year’s Offensive (in FBIS collection), E3/30, 31 December 1974, ERN (En) 00166659-61. 428 T. 30 July 2012 (ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon), p. 57; T. 14 December 2011 (NUON Chea), pp. 2-4. ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon Interview Record, E3/63, 21 September 2008, ERN (En) 00231410. 429 SEM Hoeun Interview Record, E3/5280, 10 March 2009, ERN (En) 00290514. 430 T. 22 April 2013 (CHHOUK Rin) pp. 89-94. Case 002/01, Judgement, 7 August 2014 - Public 81