01005736 Case File No. 002/19-09-2007/ECCC/TC E313 several villagers and other sources, Expert Philip SHORT reported that several thousand, “[o]fficials and uniformed soldiers were separated from the rest, led away and killed.”360 Two witnesses also confirmed that after the fall of Oudong many people, including children were first sent to M-13, where some were interrogated, and later to Battambang Province.361 Witness Stephen HEDER visited Oudong around 19 March 1974 and interviewed some of the few remaining inhabitants who told him about mass executions of some categories of people including Buddhist nuns by Khmer Rouge troops entering Oudong.362 Although he did not recall seeing the bodies of Khmer Republic military personnel or hearing specific reports of such executions, he personally saw half a dozen bodies of Buddhist nuns on a hillside near a Pagoda.363 125. Witness NOU Mao testified that he attended a commune committee meeting after the evacuation and was told that Khmer Republic soldiers had been defeated at Oudong and the population ‘evacuated’ to the Trapeang Treunh village. 364 He was told that evacuees died due to starvation and disease, but there was no acknowledgement that soldiers were executed.365 One month later however in a speech given in North Korea, KHIEU Samphan gave a clear indication of what had happened and who had been targeted: “On 18 March, our People’s National Liberation Armed Forces liberated another city, Oudong, by annihilating all the puppet soldiers there along with their reinforcements; in other words over 5,000 enemies were eliminated, 1,500 of whom were captured.”366 He did not specify 2013 (NOU Mao), pp. 6, 41-43; Revolutionary Flag, E3/25, December 1976-January 1977, p. 19 ERN (En) 00491424; T. 26 July 2012 (ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon), pp. 25-26; T. 20 March 2012 (KAING Guek Eav), p. 13; The testimony of NY Khan, SON Sen’s brother, was ambivalent on this issue. He testified that Oudong had never been evacuated, but also responded that people were evacuated for security reasons because of the fear of aerial bombings. See T. 28 May 2012 (NY Khan) pp. 22-23. Due to the contradictions in his testimony, the Chamber does not find this witness to be reliable on the subject of the 1974 evacuation of Oudong. 360 Book by P. SHORT: Pol Pot: The History of a Nightmare, E3/9, 2004, p. 255, ERN (En) 00396455; T. 7 May 2013 (Philip SHORT), p. 73; T. 19 June 2013 (NOU Mao), pp. 6, 41-43. 361 T. 7 April 2009 (KAING Guek Eav alias Duch), Case 001, p. 31; T. 9 April 2009 (UCH Sorn), Case 001, pp. 104-105 (many children were sent to M-13 when Oudong was defeated). 362 T. 10 July 2013 (Stephen HEDER), pp. 86-87; T. 11 July 2013 (Stephen HEDER), p. 5. 363 T. 10 July 2013 (Stephen HEDER), pp. 86-87. 364 T. 19 June 2013 (NOU Mao), p. 42. 365 T. 19 June 2013 (NOU Mao), pp. 41-42. 366 FUNK Publication: Nouvelles du Cambodge No.698, E3/167, 11 April 1974, ERN (En) 00280586; See also, Document by KE Pauk: Autobiography of Ke Pauk from 1949-1985, E3/2782, undated, ERN (En) 0089711 (stating that after recapturing Oudong from Khmer Republic Division 80, CPK forces “annihilated the enemies and confiscated tanks, artilleries and thousands of tons of ammunition”); T. 11 July 2013 (Stephen HEDER) p. 55 (on the origins of E3/2782). Case 002/01, Judgement, 7 August 2014 - Public 69