01005746 Case File No. 002/19-09-2007/ECCC/TC E313 success of the revolution and that the decision was made in February 1975.414 While NUON Chea did not recall any subsequent meeting on the issue of the evacuation of Phnom Penh after the mid-1974 meeting, he confirmed that the decision to evacuate was discussed at more than one meeting.415 3.4.3. Early April 1975 144. The Chamber is satisfied that in early April 1975, senior leaders of the CPK gathered at B-5, the command centre for the attack on Phnom Penh located in Tang Poun village, Kampong Tralach district, Kampong Chhnang province to discuss the forcible transfer of the inhabitants of Phnom Penh.416 Witness PHY Phuon was present in the vicinity of the meeting and provided a relatively detailed account. The Trial Chamber accepts PHY Phuon’s evidence in relation to the overall description of this meeting and its participants, who included both NUON Chea and KHIEU Samphan. In important respects, his evidence on this matter was corroborated by the Accused. 145. The Chamber concludes that POL Pot and other leaders, who were at B-5 prior to the evacuation, attended the meeting together with NUON Chea, KHIEU Samphan and other senior leaders.417 According to NUON Chea, POL Pot stayed at B-5 from 414 SWB/Far Eastern Relations Monitoring Report: The Far East, 4 October 1977, E3/2728, ERN (En) 00390921, 00390927; Pol Pot’s Press Conference in Peking (in SWB Collection), E3/2072, 3 October 1977, S 00080549 (“One of the important factors [of our success] is the evacuation of city residents to the countryside. This was decided before victory was won, that is, in February 1975, because we knew that before the smashing of all sorts of enemy spy organizations, our strength was not strong enough to defend the revolutionary regime”). 415 T. 30 January 2012 (NUON Chea), pp. 17-21; T. 31 January 2012 (NUON Chea), pp. 37-38; T. 13 December 2011 (NUON Chea), pp. 26-29. 416 T. 26 July 2012, (ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon), pp. 12-13, 17; ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon Interview Record, E3/24, 5 December 2007, p. 4, ERN (En) 00223581; MEAS Voeun Interview Record, E3/424, 16 December 2009, p. 3-4, ERN (En) 00421070-71; HENG Samrin Interview Notes by Stephen HEDER, E3/5593, 3 December 1991, ERN (En) 00419396-97; HENG Samrin Interview by Stephen HEDER, E3/1568, 2 December 1991, ERN (En) 00651879; KHIEU Samphan Interview Record, E3/27, 13 December 2007, ERN (En) 00156743. 417 T. 26 July 2012, (ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon), pp. 12-13; T. 31 July 2012 (ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon), p. 11; ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon Interview Record, E3/24, 5 December 2007, p. 4, ERN (En) 0223581; ROCHOEM Ton alias PHY Phuon Interview Record, E3/63, 21 September 2008, ERN (En) 00231409-10; cf. Book by KHIEU S.: Cambodia’s Recent History and the Reasons Behind the Decisions I made, E3/18, July 2004, p. 54, ERN (En) 00103750 (“by the end of March 1975, I was invited to the general headquarters of the [CPK] in Phoum Dong, west of Udong, to follow the last offensive against the capital more closely. Neither Hu Nim […] nor Hou You […] were with me at that time”); NUON Chea testified that POL Pot returned to B-5 after the liberation of Phnom Penh: T. 30 January 2012 (NUON Chea), pp. 37-38. Case 002/01, Judgement, 7 August 2014 - Public 79